it was a grown man's our mutual passion was helping companies grow

and instead of giving each other the look

we co-authored a book

he's got a very theatrical way of presenting he's so animated with his body his facial expressions light up and he varies his vocal tonality it doesn't sound like a presentation it sounds like he's just telling a story to a group of friends this makes him so relatable he does wait for the slides to pop up to continue talking and that adds a bit of a gap of the presentation other than that it is smooth sailing not everything has to be super serious