logan's first videos are so crazy you can't even see them it was like streamed over some weird platform there was no conversation it was just two dudes hanging out in his basement but he started gary v's first videos i think he was in the middle of a street in the middle of a snowstorm in new jersey marie for leo sitting on her futon in her small apartment in new york city all the people that you see today and you go to their first videos and it's like oh they're just like me they started going difference they didn't stop