you have to wait to buy a second property must first properties paid off when the fuck are you payoff from this twenty thousand dollars down one hundred thousand dollar house in ten years houses for two hundred so he can go to the bank and say give me seventy five percent loan to value and pull that money out and buy more properties now he can do that over five houses now he's on apartment building that other people are gonna pay off while you're diminishing your taxable income it is risk but it's certainly risk and broad daylight because you can see the whole board